and tripodless

I do get a lot of questions from people regarding the processing and filters on many images (not only mine), I do understand why since when I standing in the same spot as them and they fire off a few on their smartphone and then the comment comes as why their images are so different, ie you must Photoshop them 😉 or have filters

So here's a recent image , no filters, yes it is processed (albeit minimally and not in photoshop lol), however every image out of a camera has some form of processing – I only found out the other day my smartphone had beauty face turned on.. i was wondering why i had the glamour glow look whenever I took a smartphone selfie 😉

So, its a 3 shot panorama, handheld, no filters (ie they funny things out front) and processed in Capture NX2
View large and check out that detail in the rock.

Exif love:
D750 coupled with 16-35mm f4 @ 16mm Aperture: f/9 and Shutter Speed: 1/50s
ISO 200
out front – nada but rocks and bigass cliff

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57 thoughts on “Filterless

  1. Great shot(s) mate. It annoys me when people say it's been 'photoshopped' as if it was cheating or something. There has never been a time when serious images were not tweaked after the 'click'.

    Editing is now and always has been a huge and integral part of photography which needs to be learned and practiced in the same way as using the camera does.

    Camera's do not capture reality – they capture data.
    End of rant!

  2. I take some of my photos with a smartphone and it's possible without extra processing through apps to have good results comparable to a dslr. I am guilty of using Lightroom, Photoshop (for the plugins not for compositing) and SnapHeal though for some processing but I don't depend on them.

  3. how it used to be before photoshop… have been edited well before PS was even dreamt about.

    There is still sooooooo much about photography so many have no idea about. Serious photography is more than pull the phone out, snap a pic and send it into cyber space.

    So many don't understand JPG files are edited as are mini lab photos

    Much of the recent rot about the colour of a dress imo comes down to camera white balance/lighting/bad happy snapping

    Great thread Gerry! This is one of the reasons I have started a couple of before and after threads on photo forums; many still think the high quality imagery posted by the likes of yourself fall out of the camera….. ummm …phone like that.

    The other thing many don't understand is how important the light is when the photo is taken. Tourist lighting (10am to 4pm) is a lot different to photographer's lighting

    Great thread mate; more of the better photographers could post before and after file imo

  4. two great subjects in this one Gerry, the landscape subject and the filterless subject

    And Robert Martinez, Gerry will most likely pick up on this also; but why are GUILTY of using LR/PS or whatever??

  5. +Ian Browne Hi Ian, for those who think that processing is cheating, they might want to read a little about Ansel Adams. I devoured books both by him and about him in the late 60s and have loved his work from the very first time I came across it. He always said that his photos were made in the darkroom, and would spend hours just to create one print. This isn't the best article about him by a long shot, but it talks about his quest for perfection both in the taking and the processing of his photographs.

  6. So true +Chris Sutton ; I remember [early 1980s] thinking I could see into the rocks in photo I saw somewhere. That was before I knew much about photography and had no idea who Ansel Adams was; but of course that was a photograph by Ansel

  7. +Ryan Fullerton
    short or long version? 😉
    Its all pretty meaningless really, imo PP is where you can put your own 'take' on a image, however for the exercise this is what I did to this image:
    1) opened .NEF 's (raw files) in +Adobe Photoshop , default options in adobe RAW
    2) stitched 3 images using the photomerge option in PS
    3) applied wide angle correction to straighten panorama
    4) saved as a flattened tiff file (ie no layers)
    5) open in CaptureNX2
    6) there are about 15 or so edits, they are probably only 4 or 5 unique steps so I will only list them.

    a) Shadow recovery, ie lift the light form the shadows
    b) apply a polarisation filter (i like this, its nice to add a bit of depth to the sky and green to the foliage.
    c) adjust the tonal contrast – this is a few steps but basically you adjust the shadow/mid/ighlight contrast as needed.
    d) vignetting, applied selectively so the white of teh ocean waves does not go too dark.
    e)couple of control points, just to lighten a specific area.. in this case the rocks in the middle lower part which are fairlign heavily shadowed.
    f) add contrast
    g) add brillance (smart saturation basically.

    7) resize for the web, using a progressive sharpening technique.
    viola, finished image, whilst it may sound like a lot, that all constitutes about 4 minutes editing..
    hope that helps.

  8. +robert martinez
    very true, the smartphones have their own settings to get a nice image out without editing, this is teh camera/camera software doing things like saturation, sharpening, shadow recovery and contrast…
    when I shoot a picture from the DSLR, i use a flat raw file and I tell ya what.. it looks incredibly dull compared to a smartphone shot 🙂
    you depend on processing, its a matter of whether you do it consciously or not 🙂

  9. excellent points +Ian Browne particularly the light and time of day, very key to a good image.
    Regarding the before and after, i tend to steer away from that, mainly since when I present a image, I am presenting my view… what I saw on the day of the scene, providing a viewer (for whatever reason) to make a judgement on the original when compared to the finished is a distorted view. That said I see benefit in providing the original file for edit and interpretation before showing the final image 🙂
    Thanks for stimulating the discussion mate – i miss these kind of discussions which used to be found on the forums 🙂

  10. hahah +Rodney Campbell the only reason I did not drop the tripod out and filter up was the time restriction ie you had a date with a beach 🙂
    looking at the sat view we were certainly in the.. ahem… firing line lol..its ok tho… only pros shoot there i think hence the chance of them sending one into the sky to land on ya head is slim…

  11. +Chris Sutton
    I use Adobe PS and Nikons CaptureNX2 mostly, however I have used LR for quite some time, but in a more limited amount, ie I do alot of my portraits and family stuff in there since its super quick and the results are pretty good, but for landscapes etc I tend to use PS and CNX2.

  12. One of the handiest editing tools I have is the Nik collect Gerry. I say handiest as I don't use any of the programs on many images but when I want or need something different the collection comes into it's own. Viveza is great for editing selected colours; like removing blue from thin cloud; silver pro is well known; and there are a some handy filters in Colour pro 2. I use HDR for combining files only; then edit in LR for natural look.
    This place sort of sucks (sorry folks) when it comes to helping newbies or good constructive CC or discussion. Nothing beats a good "old fashion" photography forum for that.
    IMO before and after 'proves' the final wow wow images don't fall off the card as so many still think

  13. Welcome as always mate! I'm a babe in the woods when it comes to editing software. I've dabbled a little in PS and LR, barely scratched the surface really.

  14. +Ian Browne
    true about the before and after images and the demonstration of the fact they do not fall out of the camera 🙂
    I have the nik collection also, great plugin for PS, much more clunky to use in PS then captureNX2 tho 🙂

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